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Club chairs don’t look installed correctly.
Posted: February 14th, 2019, 10:11 pm
by Astrodokk
I was sitting on the couch directly in front of the passenger side table and noticed that the rearmost club (barrel) chair looks like it’s installed too forward. It hits the table cabinet and can’t be turned unless slid completely to the aisle. I looked inside the pedestal box and it is how it’s been since factory, since there are no other holes in the wood. I think I’ll move it backwards about three or four inches so that it looks balanced with the front one.
Anyone have the same issue?
Re: Club chairs don’t look installed correctly.
Posted: February 14th, 2019, 11:30 pm
by sleepy t
Mine is set up exactly the same way. At one point, I thought that each of the club chairs are set in their sweet spot to allow it to rotate through the fullest range possible - while moving it back and forth. I'm not so sure now. It does take a bit of jockeying around to get the aft chair to rotate without hitting either the table, bulkhead or stove. Kind of feels like a secret handshake - slide the chair forward two notches, rotate 90 degrees, move it aft one notch, rotate 45 degrees, sit down and rotate another 360 degrees....

I believe Blue said that the same type of handshake is required if you have a swivel pedestal on the front cabin seat.
I haven't looked at it with a critical enough eye to consider fooling around with the seats' placements.... there's always something else to do that weighs less and provides less chance of frustration.

Tomorrow's project will be to see where/how to mount a load resistor for rear LED taillights (I didn't know one was necessary until after I committed to the project).
Easy fix: If you rotate the chairs toward each other, the angles may help throw off the lack of symmetry.

Pull the table out for additional eye distraction. It's not the same, but similar to fixing a strange noise by turning up the radio.
Re: Club chairs don’t look installed correctly.
Posted: February 14th, 2019, 11:55 pm
by Blue~Go
I just looked at some photos I have of mine, as original. Notes:
1) The aft club chair is mounted pretty much right at the forward (and inboard/aisle) edge of its base box. In other words the four holes for mounting the chair to the base box are as close to the cab as they could be and still fit nicely on the box.
2) The forward club chair is mounted more in the center of the box, forward/aft (not exactly centered, but close). It's also mounted at the inboard (aisle) edge of the box. (at the inboard edge, but nearly centered fore and aft).
3) BUT my chairs look equidistant from the club table. The aft chair doesn't crowd the table like yours does. And I never felt they were "off" in terms of swiveling, moving on their tracks, or by looking at them.
Looking more closely what I noticed is that the club table on mine was mounted so it was basically pressing right up against the base box of the forward chair (made slight indents in base box fabric), but had a gap of a few inches between it (club table) and the aft chair base box. Hence it looked centered between the chairs vs. the way your aft chair looks too close to the table. I wonder if someone "centered" your table without realizing why it was not supposed to be centered? (Maybe even at Chinook.) It comes out with just a few screws so you could change it.
Here is a horrible, cropped photo that tries to show it.
Re: Club chairs don’t look installed correctly.
Posted: February 15th, 2019, 10:49 am
by caconcourse
Astrodokk wrote: February 14th, 2019, 10:11 pm
I was sitting on the couch directly in front of the passenger side table and noticed that the rearmost club (barrel) chair looks like it’s installed too forward. It hits the table cabinet and can’t be turned unless slid completely to the aisle. I looked inside the pedestal box and it is how it’s been since factory, since there are no other holes in the wood. I think I’ll move it backwards about three or four inches so that it looks balanced with the front one.
Anyone have the same issue?
My chairs are in exactly the same position, so I guess this is the factory configuration. Since it never struck me, I guess it never seemed to be a problem. We keep gallon drinking water bottles (for coffee) behind the rear chair, so it is convenient to have some space between the chair and the stove wall for storage access.
Re: Club chairs don’t look installed correctly.
Posted: February 15th, 2019, 6:47 pm
by Blue~Go
Clay,
So the burning question in my mind now is, is your club table perfectly centered between the club chair bases? In which case it "crowds" the rear chair? Or is it like mine where the club table is tight to the forward base, and then there is a gap between it and the aft base (in other words the table is off center toward the cab)? Because of the fact that that chairs are not both mounted in the same place on their respective bases (due to the stove blocks swiveling more than the angled passenger pillar), this "off center" table ends up being centered visually. This is how mine was stock.
Re: Club chairs don’t look installed correctly.
Posted: February 16th, 2019, 8:34 am
by caconcourse
Blue~Go wrote: February 15th, 2019, 6:47 pm
Clay,
So the burning question in my mind now is, is your club table perfectly centered between the club chair
bases? In which case it "crowds" the rear chair? Or is it like mine where the club table is tight to the forward base, and then there is a gap between it and the aft base (in other words the table is off center toward the cab)? Because of the fact that that chairs are not both mounted in the same place on their respective bases (due to the stove blocks swiveling more than the angled passenger pillar), this "off center" table ends up being centered visually. This is how mine was stock.
The table is mounted flush against the furnace box toward the front.
Re: Club chairs don’t look installed correctly.
Posted: February 16th, 2019, 9:39 am
by Blue~Go
Thanks, Clay.
So now of course I want to know how Astro's club table is mounted in relation to the club chair bases. Did someone "center" it? Club plan owners everywhere wait with bated breath to find out
Also, Astro, if the club table has not been moved, did you know the chairs can slide forward and aft (like a driver's seat)? There is a plastic lever on the arm to allow that to happen. Does it make a difference if you adjust that plus swivel?
Re: Club chairs don’t look installed correctly.
Posted: February 16th, 2019, 11:09 am
by caconcourse
Blue~Go wrote: February 16th, 2019, 9:39 am
Thanks, Clay.
So now of course I want to know how Astro's club table is mounted in relation to the club chair bases. Did someone "center" it? Club plan owners everywhere wait with bated breath to find out
If you look at the bottom picture of Astro's post, you can see that his table is also mounted flush to the front chair base. It looks like they wanted the table and chairs as far forward as possible, but the front club chair had to be pushed back from the front passenger seat. It does make a big difference when the chairs are pushed forward or backward on their sliders, as to how much they swivel and table clearance. In general they need to be all the way "out" for the most swivel action and clearance. The adjustment levers on the side are sometimes hard to operate and a little hidden, so it is possible for new owners to overlook them. You also need to be in the chair and use your body to push forward or backward to adjust them.
Re: Club chairs don’t look installed correctly.
Posted: February 16th, 2019, 2:17 pm
by Astrodokk
Finally the weekend!
Yes, my table is flush up against the front furnace box. It can't be moved any more forward. The rear "aft" chair is not centered on it's box as is the front one, so it's too forward towards the cab as Blue put it. There are no other holes in the wood, so it came stock that way.
I like sitting in the chairs all the way back towards the window, but that rear one can't be swiveled much in that position since it hits the table. One must use the "secret handshake" to get it to slide out and then turn. Although there is plenty of room behind it for storage, I prefer to see it centered and balanced, because I think I've become OCD in my later life. Also, I want to be able to sit in it and face directly into the aisle, but the way it is now, it's always angled a little to the front.
Although low priority, eventually I will move that chair back a few inches to satisfy my obsession.
Thanks everyone for the input. I'm glad this thread brought out the facts, because I was thinking maybe someone had dismantled the rig and put it back together wrong.
Re: Club chairs don’t look installed correctly.
Posted: February 16th, 2019, 10:02 pm
by Blue~Go
Inquiring minds now know!
I was thinking that maybe the reason the chairs and table are biased forward is that due to the "diagonalness" of the upholstered pillar up by the cab, there is around 8" more space forward. In other words, the two chair boxes are the same size (24"). The aft box is hard up against the stove wall, so it gets its 24" but no more. On the other hand, if you look at the cab side of the forward box, you see that there is about an 8" "strip" of space where the pillar is (of course the cab seat could recline into this space, but not necessarily while camping).
Anyway, so apparently no PO tampered with Astro's chairs and table. (But I would have wondered too by seeing what you saw in your photo.)